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Something so right – chapter 70
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Bette didn’t speak – she was utterly confused now
“I don’t know “
“You don’t know if you love me ?”
“Of course I fucking well love you – would I get on my knee and ask you to marry me otherwise ?“
“Sorry – so what do you not know ?”
Bette shook my head
“It took me so much courage to ask you – I have chickened out of it so many times. I was going to ask you
when we woke up on Christmas morning together. I nearly asked you when we were out walking in the snow in Vermont – hundreds of times. I thought that after the show would be perfect – you would see that I could support you “
“You are so old fashioned babe “ Tina rubbed a tear from her eyes
“Stupid you mean “
“No – Bette – I will not have you say that about yourself. You are simply the most amazing woman. I want to spend the rest of my life with you – do you not hear me when I said that ? I want to get old with you – I want to have your child – to feel it grow inside me and for you to be beside me when she comes into the world. I never thought I could feel that way about a person. You are my destiny and my future and the love of my life “
“So why won’t you say that you will marry me ?”
“I don’t need to be married to know that I will always be faithful to you “
Bette dried a couple of tears that were falling down her face
“We can’t stay as a couple “
“Why ?”
“Because I do need to be married to you. You know how many women I have had – I know that I have a part of my personality that has to have the stability of a commitment on both our parts “
“I want to show you something “ Tina said
“What ?”
Tina opened her shirt – Bette looked anxious
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Woah quite the dilema! I can see both points of view. I think they both need to think about what the other has said and come to a decision together. Maybe a little sleep then some talking together. It shouldn’t have to be all or nothing, cause we all know they’ll be miserable alone! PPS
Please write another chapter soon so I know if Tina and Bette are going to get married soon or not! Please don’t split them up!
For a moment I thought that Tina was going to walk away. I am torn by both sides and don’t know a compromise, I’m hoping you do ally!!! Love it!!
wow i this is complicated I see both views. I have known couples who have been together forever without marriage and I have also seen couples who have been together 15 years get married and fall apart within that year…Marriage can be really great or disasterous..
Excellent chapter. I don’t like how Bette is trying to bully Tina into marrying her. It doesn’t bode well for how she will deal with future disagreements–married or not.
Have your head and heart talk, only do what you can really do and be happy, that’s my advice (of course I am single)
Excellent chapter! I am glad at least Bette heard Tina out but the my way or the highway technique never proves to be successful. Many times your head and heart don’t match up but it seems like Bette is not listening to Tina’s concerns. I hope it works out ok – can’t wait to read more! PPS
Wow that was brilliant chapter Ally and so confusing as well, God how did you write this? I assume that you were in some sort of conflict with your thoughts and feelings. I really understand and feel for both of them, For Tins I think the reason she can’t say yes is that she doesn’t trust the institution of marriage cause I think she feels that it’s going to ruin her relationship with Bette and history might repeat itself, “why would you need to get marry when you are already committed to one another, is marriage going to add something that isn’t there?” While Bette sees marriage as eternal bond that a person makes to tell the world “sometimes himself” that you belong somewhere and to feel some kind of security and assurance that both parts will be committed to each other no matter what temptation life throws at you. Wow It’s really hard to be in their situation right now, I wish that they can leave making a decision right now and both rest and after that they will have some kind of clarity to see each other’s point of view and maybe understand what each is trying to say and feel. Please Ally don’t let this ruin their relationship and end it, they Can work this out. I think if Tina said that she refuses marriage itself but not getting married to Bette and she will never marry anybody and Bette is no exception, I think Bette will understand the rejection and work on it to eliminate the cause of fear. Thanks Ally and sorry we might bore you with how long our comments sometimes are, but what you write is never ordinary to leave without a reaction. Post sooooooooooooooooooooooooooon dear. Love
wow. that was an emotionally charged chapter. i see both their views. i personally would like to see them married but not under these circumstances. i think getting engaged is a step in the right direction. bette should realize that she is not the only one hurting. excellent as always, ally!
Holly cow batman… very emotional chapter Ally! You continue to do a great job in portraying both sides of the issue. I am torn because I see both of their points of view, yet I’m not sure what would I do… Tina needs to realize her and Bette are not her parents so they are not going to end like them. On the other hand, she should not say YES just because that’s what Bette wants. Bette also has to understand where Tina is coming from and know that she is also hurting. They certainly need to meet half way, maybe Bette can help Tina work on her issues and perhaps Tina could consider marriage some time in the future? Oh boy… don’t let us wait too long please? Hope you’re feeling better! xoxo
No- brainer – say no, Tina. Bette’s immaturity is front and center here – her stubbornness and refusal to take Tina’s fear seriously is pure blackmail. Why should Tina back down when Bette won’t meet her half-way? I love Bette, but sometimes her emotional immaturity is breathtaking. And if Tina gives in, it won’t be long before resentment sets in.
Sadly, I think Tina should stick to her guns…Bette needs to listen to her…maybe at some point they can revisit this but not now. And yes, Bette needs to be able to explain her fears…Tina, keep trying to get through to Bette. They are committed to each other..sometimes marriage works and sometimes it doesn’t. PPS
Ally, this remains my fav and the emotion you penned in this update is an excellent example of why this story is so great.
WOW!!! ALLY!!! One of your best chapters ever. I hope they take some time a part and really think about the fears they both have. Marriage works for some and not for others, but B&T need to clam down and take some time to really talk. Thank you PPVS
Good Lord!! They HAVE to meet in the middle! Tina is willing to compromise and Bette isn’t! THEY NEED TO TALK … AND KEEP TALKING until they understand each other. This “All or Nothing” is pure crap!! Take steps … Bette should reconsider the engagement which would give them both time to deal with their fears!! Sheesh … women!! LOL
Hmm. Tina’s going to have to really tell Bette all of her fears. She’s laid out that she wants to be committed and that she only wants Bette, that’s missing from that are the willingness to exchange rings and “I do”s (even though she let Bette know that she expected her to cheat for ages… that’s pretty important and I think they should revisit that). I can also understand Bette wanting Tina to stand up in front of their friends and family and seal their commitment, but the “my way or highway” thing is pretty rigid. Neither of them has made a totally convincing argument, and it’s likely cos they’re both overtired. Maybe some sleep would do them good. Where’s Bette going to stay, though, if she feels she can’t go home? Thanks for the chapter, ally.
They are both too tired and emotional to rationally discuss this. They need to get some sleep and come back later. Bette sees marrying Tina as her way of giving all of herself to Tina for the rest of their lives. This is a big thing to Bette in light of her background…she has never wanted to make this commitment to anyone else…to her it was the ultimate way of showing Tina her love. I think that Bette has demonstrated her understanding of Tina’s fears and problems with her parents and has supported Tina in this regard. Bette has allowed Tina’s brother to live with them as another show of support. I think it’s time for Tina to show some support for Bette. If this is important to Bette, then the compromise is for Tina to say yes and quite honestly, I don’t understand how not getting married means their relationship would be more successful than her parents. Ally, that chapter was brilliantly written!
sounds to me like b4 marriage or a commitment, they both need therapy to work on their separate issues. i get both points of view!!!!bette, dear, u should not/cannot bully someone into marrying u-it will leave ‘resentment’ and that will taint the relationship and ultimately ‘the love’. go see dr dan.
I see both sides of this. I’m on the fence with this one. They will both be hurting if they don’t come to any agreement. It’s a tough call with this one. They need to take a step back, get some rest, then talk things out, both listening to each other’s points of view. Can’t wait to see how you handle this one! PPS
Bette is trying to bully Tina,if Tina marrys Bette will Bette always be this way. Tina is stubborn in her believes and the way she was raised. They both needs some time,but why get married,just because Bette wants it,after all diddn’t keep Melvin pants on/ is this just Bette way of being the one that has her way. Shoot I;m stubborn so I might take the hiway. thanks
Damn it Tina; take the ring and say yes. Tina knows that it means the world to Bette so just say yes already and get over your mommy and daddy issues. Granted Bette is being stubborn but Tina needs to say yes so she has time to explain her feelings to Bette. Eventually, maybe Bette will come around and realize that they don’t ahve to be married to be faithful and committed. But right now Bette is hurt, scared and doubtful of Tina’s love for her so Tina’s only priority should be to convince Bette that she wants (by any means neccesary). PPS! And I’m still teetering on the edge of my seat..
Oh merciful heavens. They are both being teribly stubborn, espceially Bette. She should have known how Tina would feel about the institution of marriage, not necesarily marriage to her. However, I think they need to give it a rest for now and talk later. Maybe if they just didn’t call it marriage but a commitment ceremony instead, could Bette and Tina work with that? I really think Bette should meet Tina halfway here and she is not even trying, just holding fast to the thought that Tina doesn’t love her, and she knows better than that. As Tina said Bette has dug her heels in and won’t give an inch. WRONG-O on Bette’s part. I hope they don’t let this go on because the longer it lingers the harder to admit defeat and go back together. There are no hard and fast answers to this problem in which they find themselves. AllyE you’ve brought us this problem, surely you have the answer already, at least I hope you have. I read this chapter hours ago but I had to think about my comment and I still don’t have an answer. Hope you are feeling better. Post when you can and I hope it will be very soon. Thanks for posting.
Emotional blackmail is not on the path of true love. Tina is a childish jerk for not being able to view marriage without looking through the prism of her parents’, but I’d say no under these circumstances as well. As the old ‘Magic 8 Ball’ used to say, “answer unclear, try again later.”
What a situation they have gotten themselves in. I’m seeing both points, but maybe Tina needs to give into her resistense, uhm Yeah, I think they should get married.
More thought, they both are hurting and they both need to cool down a bit… Tina needs to walk out…
That’s right,Tina!! marry doesn’t prove or secure relationship. I don’t believe in married either but I’ve been with my gf for 17 years so far.
Excellent chapter. (hope you’re feeling all better now!)
I do know a hetero couple in which the guy wanted marriage and the woman didn’t. He is 18 years younger that she. They had been together for 13 years and they split b/c of her refusal to marry the guy whom she loves. People do odd things! Is Bette fearful that she won’t be able to stay faithful unless she has that ring? Many married people cheat w/no conscience. The ring is only a symbol of one’s commitment. Why does Bette need that ring? Is it to ward off others who might make a play for her? She is a complex person especially as played by Jennifer Beals.
WOW, both would be miserable if they split! bette needs to understand tina’s fears and from what it sounds like bette has her fears, maybe she thinks she will loose tina or the very fact that she will cheat somewhere down the road….maybe they shoud get some sleep first they are functioning on no sleep and highly charged emotions…:)PPS
Oh my….
Hope they will calm down and talk and work thing out!