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    is this love = chp 119


    After a romantic dinner together they went for a walk on the beach. The sun was setting and the sky had gone from blue to a bright fiery red and was now starting to turn orange. Holding hands they walked through the sand with sea water lapping across their feet
    “This is beautiful “ Tina said “Its really amazing “
    “This is what I wanted our holiday to be – the two of us just alone and at peace”
    “Another of our plans ruined by my mother “
    “She is consistent “ Bette said diplomatically
    “I am sorry “
    “Don’t be – if they hadn’t interfered we would not have met”
    Tina stopped and faced Bette. She took hold of Bette’s hands and sighed
    “I love you – I love you with a power that I have never felt before. I love you so much that I am sometimes scared of how intense it all is. I also get scared that you are going to get fed up with my mother always fucking interfering. I just want to be with you Bette. I am sorry I have been so wrapped up in other things “
    Bette squeezed Tina’s hands and kissed her on the mouth. The kiss went on for several minutes. When the kiss finally ended she looked at Tina
    “I love you too – and yes I get scared too. This is so new for me. I have never been this close – emotionally, physically and spiritually to anyone before. I have always been an outsider – so to be part of a couple is really fresh ground for me. I just know we are meant to be. I don’t like your mother interfering – but then – I don’t like my mother interfering either. But at the end of the day its not about her or anyone else. This is our journey together and there are bound to be hurdles. Life isn’t easy and we are going to stumble. But we face these things together. All I ask of you is that you care about us and what we stand for as much as I do “
    “I do – you have given me my zest for life back. I know that I have said all of this before but I just existed before you walked into my life. Deep down – deep deep down I think I think I knew that the MBA was too much for me. Its funny how fate has taken to twisting and shaping our lives. If your dad hadn’t been forced to spend a day in court – he would have never bumped into my mom and the subject of them both having single gay daughters “
    “I think we can trace it all back to dodgy fish at a party. That party happened to coincide with my having a show so dad was at my event and not the other one. I think it was dodgy crab”
    Tina smiled “This feels like a watershed for us “
    “In a good way ?”
    “Yes. This Masters course could be the best thing for me “
    “It will be.”
    “Mom is going to hate the idea”
    “Your mom is not doing it “
    Tina looked at Bette – all she saw was love and respect. Bette wanted the same as she did – for their relationship to work so they could spent their lives together
    “You know this is like a honeymoon – we go back to New York and we start a whole new phase of our lives”
    “I guess it is “
    Tina lifted Bette’s left hand up and kissed it “I vow that you are my priority Bette. I love you and I know that you love me. What we have is something – this doesn’t happen more than once in a lifetime and I am not going to mess this up. I swear I am going to love you and care for you – nothing is going to stop us living together and making one another happy”

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    1. Applaus for Tina 👏👏👏

      She has so much more confidence and doesn’t let Emma interfere with her life.

      It is really sad that Emma does try to interfere with her life. Let Tina make her own decisions. She has Bette stand behind her. It is so good to see that they discuss everyting and talk about everyting that matters. What matters is how they deal with what life thrown them and how they handle it as couple.

      I love this couple ♥️

      Thanks for the update!

    2. Bette is wise beyond her years. Her ability to see future problems in her relationship with Tina and yet hold back in influencing her decisions is most loving thing she could do. This is what Tina sees finally. The job would be lucrative but would involve long hours and the MBA would involve even more hours. Yet she was willing to go with the flow and deal with it because this is what Tina wants. Bette and Tina would be little more than bed mates until the MBA was complete. That would be rough on any relationship and doubly so with one in its early stages. And the job would be no picnic either. This was not a 40 hour week but more like a 60 to 70 hour week plus travel. With big compensation packages come big demands. It is difficult to have a balanced personal relationship when one of the parties is has such a high time commitment to their profession. Young people then to put their professional lives before their personal lives and their relationships suffer. It takes a very mature person not only to realize that people work to live are far happier than those of live to work.

      In my opinion, a large part of the problems between Tina and Emma is with Emma’s value of work and money as the definite standard of the character of a person – the more money, the more power they yield, the more worthwhile they are as a human being. Emma’s concern with Tina not taking this job is the loss of the money and power it yields. Emma sees little value in job satisfaction. She admires Bette not because she is working in a profession for which she derives joy because of her association with arts expression, but that she is successful as a businesswoman yielding the power of her position to make more money. Kate must have been a lawyer because she loved the work and what a lawyer does for the benefit of the society. But for Kate, her relationship with her partner and her child were just as important a part of her life as her profession. And in certain instances they were more important. I believe that Tina is going to be more like my perception of Kate than like Emma. And she is going to be influenced by Bette as well in that eventually she will end up in a profession for which she has a passion for. And as long as she earns enough money to meet what she perceives she needs for her life, she will be happy. But in the end, Tina’s most valued possession will be her relationship with Bette and her family and friends, not the job she held or the money she made, which is what defines Emma.

      Outstanding chapter. Bette is such a high quality person. Tina is growing up. Tina beginning to consider the impact of her decisions on their relationship with Bette is very key to their future. Tina is doing what is best for her and standing on principle as well. But there was a hint that Tina may ask Bette to support her by severing the relationship with Peggy. I hope not. Tina must allow Bette to run her own professional life just as Bette is allowing Tina to make her own decisions. For Tina this situation is personal. For Bette, its business. So make the decision, announce it and move on.

      Thank you. for this.

    3. I love this story and think this is one of my favorite depictions of Bette ever. She is so patient and kind and loving with Tina. Yet subtly gets her points across. She quietly picks her battles with Tina but is certainly not afraid to act with others if she feels Tina might be hurt. She will make an excellent wife and mother.

      Tina is working things through and that is great but she needs to remember that they are on a romantic holiday and some of the drama can wait until they get home. Why begin yet another battle with Emma while on vacation? Can neither mother nor daughter resist? Is this the dance they are just so used to doing with one another? Seems like it is. Tina should take a step back and enjoy her time with her partner. Taking on her mother and Peggy should be able to wait a few weeks. I am surprised that Helena did not advise Emma to wait until Bette and Tina return. She knows from experience about unwanted interference.

      Here is my major takeaway from this chapter:

      “I cannot throw my career away on a point of principle – is that because she has never had a principle in her life. At least I have principles.”

      Emma Kennard is no better than Peggy Peabody. Both women are driven and used to getting their way. Both are experts at dirty tricks. For me Emma and the painting and Peggy and the escorts are analogous. Tina is more understanding and accepting of her mother’s motives than she is of Peggy’s. Moreover, Tina seems to accept that her mother lacks ethics and principles. She does not like it but she knows that is who her mother is. How do we know? Tina has said it enough. We have seen it enough. Tina still does not think her mother and Helena will last. Remember how Bette and Tina met? Remember that Emma went behind Rosemary’s back to try to get Tina and Helena together? Remember that drama? Deceptive tactics and lack of trust have been a part of this story from the beginning. Suddenly Peggy’s attempt to get Helena or Emma to cheat is a bridge too far? And she refuses to work with Peggy because she is now someone she cannot ‘trust.’ In my opinion this situation is not that simple. First off – Bette is a successful businesswoman and needs to be free to continue working with Peggy. Bette does not see Peggy for anyone other than who she is. Bette knows Peggy is flawed. Bette knows Peggy can be tough as nails and a bit ruthless. Still, Bette loves Peggy despite those flaws. Kind of like Tina knowing her mother lacks principles and has to get her own way? Peggy and Emma are branches off of the same tree. Peggy is already feeling bad and Tina not taking the job is going to be very rough. Emma piling on about it will only makes things worse. To what end?

      Is Bette the only one who knows about Peggy’s desire for grandchildren? Am I the only one who has any empathy for Peggy? She is going about things entirely wrong just as Emma did with the painting and the email to Tina while on holiday. Both women insist on getting their own way and interfere. Peggy truly believes she is right. Emma believes she is right. That is no excuse for either woman in any way. But it is the truth. Both are mothers and making mistakes.

      Tina may find not working with people she cannot trust difficult once she gets her MBA and enters the work force. Peggy’s latest attempt to break up Helena and Emma should have been kept between the three of them. It really does not involve Tina. She certainly deserves to not like it – to be angry about it – to voice that anger – and not approve of such tactics- like Bette did. But she also needs to be done with it. And remember – Tina believed Helena HAD cheated. What would Tina have done if it was true? If Tina expects Bette to sever ties with Peggy that will be naive and unfair. Is she prepared to sever ties with her mother for the same character flaws? Not that simple.

      I love this story. I love that it is multi layered with flawed characters and nothing is black and white except for Bette and Tina’s love.

    4. It is refreshing how honest they are with each other. From the very beginning there were no manipulative games between them, little hickups aside. They have such a wonderful relationship. I hope they stay that way and will not be deterred by the drama created be HelEmPeg.

      I guess doing full time studies and earning a great, fulfilling job afterwards on her own will be more satisfying for Tina. Peggy’s job offer was incredibly but now Tina has the chance to do exactly what she dreamt of.

      Thanks for this “honeymoon chapter”, Ally.

    5. When I see the long insightful comments I feel I should try harder to make mine longer!

      So sorry but:-
      I love this Bette
      I find this Tina adorable
      I adore the story and
      I am staying safe and washing my hands properly:-)

      Please make the Story a long one Ally but keep them together getting through life’s issues and against all others

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